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All Hands Meeting 2006 Notes

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- !!! Tuesday, May 2, 2006
+ ! Tuesday, May 2, 2006
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+ # Assess status and review current activities, since last teleconference.
+ # Clarify a vision of how SEEK-Taxon could collaborate with other projects with taxon concept data.
+ # Reach an understanding of what we have not achieved so far with SEEK Taxon, things left undone and identfy priorities for the next 18 months.
+ # Understand the issues of long-term maintenance of SEEK Taxon products, Data resources, TOS, software tools.
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- # Clearer vision of how to collaborate with projects that will be the bases for those collaborations
- # Understanding of what we have not achieved so far with SEEK Taxon, things left undone, can they be achieved in the next 18 months.
- # Understand the issues of long-term maintenance of SEEK Taxon products, Data resources, TOS, software tools
- # Identfy priorities for the next 18 months.
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- __ Round the table updates: __
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- ** TOS operational, MSW 2 versions, ITIS, Bob offered plant data sets
+ ** TOS operational and on line, Mamnal Species of the World 2 versions in TOS now, also ITIS. Bob offered plant data sets.
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- ** Kepler Actor in the ENM workflow,
+ ** Kepler Actor in the ENM workflow, but Rob has not heard from Dan Higgins on next steps with integration with Kepler.
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- ** Testing concept mapper
+ ** Testing ConceptMapper, working with Bob and Laura on usability engineering
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- ** Able to drop in DC records into the Viz tool, e.g. from any DiGIR provider using the MaNIS schema.
+ ** Implemented capability to drop in Darwin Core records into the renamed TaxViz tool, from any DiGIR provider using the MaNIS schema.
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- ** Meeting before TDWG 2006, to create stds for plot data. Taxon concept data would be embedded in the std and in the data sets.
+ ** Scheduled to meet prior to TDWG 2006, to create standards for plot data. Taxon concept data would be embedded in the std and in the data sets.
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- ** New Specify and Specify in 2007. Dave Remsen, uBIO interest
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- __ Tasks to be finished from original objectives __
+ ** Released last week Specify 5.0 and have work underway for a modular Java release in 2007 which would use concepts from TOS.
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+ __ Discussion of tasks to be finished from original objectives __
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- ** Jessie Significance statement of dealing with concepts and not with names –the slide of lumping and splitting the consequences of misinterpreting name lists. Changes in name over time can create errors for analysis that are artifacts of the names and concepts used through time.
+ * Jessie, need a strong significance statement of dealing with concepts and not with names, e.g. the slide of lumping and splitting the consequences of misinterpreting name lists. Changes in name over time can create errors for analysis that are artifacts of the choice of names and concepts used.
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- ** Say why this problem is important. In ecology you tend to look at data sets over a period of time, or over different geographical areas, and both dimensions introduce different names and concepts. Integrative and synthetic activities need to respect these changes and disambiguate the labels. Analyzing data through time and space.
+ * Say why this problem is important. In ecology you tend to look at data sets over a period of time, or over different geographical areas, and both dimensions introduce different names and concepts. Integrative and synthetic activities need to respect these changes and disambiguate the labels. Analyzing data through time and space.
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- ** TOS architecture slide, providers will be added up and to the left.
+ * TOS architecture slide, providers will be added up and to the left.
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- SPNHC Meeting, SEEK Taxon Poster
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- Taxon Breakouts
- Laura with Bob and Xianhua review ConceptMapper usability
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- Future Collaborations for SEEK Taxon
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- Demonstration Project
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- 1. SEEK Workflow idea, creating a new classification, export into TCS import to TOS, export data to conceptmapper and txax viz.
- 2. Map relationships between TOS and new data.
- 3. Marking up data with EML and GUIDS
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- Using GARP showing impact on different classifications on noche models with ranuculus.
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- 1. adding common names and using them for queries might be good.
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+ __ Possible Future Collaborations for SEEK Taxon __
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- uBIO and Rod Paige, GBIF, Jessie, no idea on what GBIF or Europeans plans are with concepts. GBIF has catalog of life.
+ * Demonstration Project
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- USDA Plants, Stinger wants to do concepts.
+ # SEEK Workflow idea, creating a new classification, export into TCS, import to TOS, export data to Conceptmapper and to TaxViz.
+ # An application, or (Kepler?) workflo for mapping relationships between TOS and new data.
+ # Marking up data with EML and GUIDS
+ # Using GARP showing impact on different classifications on noche models with ranuculus.
+ # Adding common names and using them for queries might be good.
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+ * Collaborations with others
+ ** Other people "doing concepts" -- uBIO, Rod Paige, New Zealand research lab, GBIF plans for concepts are unclear.
+ ** USDA Plants, Stinger wants to do concepts.
+ ** Specify could implement an itnerface to the TOS for collections management using concepts.
+ ** Bob, authoring tools that would allow people to contribute concepts to TOS and take ownership of concepts. A way for people to author new concepts and get instant gratification.
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- Collections Specify Concepts, should we pursue that.
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- Jessie, we should not look so far into the future, the broader impacts.
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- * Bob, authoring tools that would allow people to contribute concepts to TOS and take ownership of concepts. A way for people to author new concepts and get instant gratification.
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- * Jessie, the NHM has an EU funded project to develop two different taxonomies online. (Does not know of anyone in Europe or in the UK working with taxon concepts.)
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- ** Wanted a collaborative tool for authoring inventories of major groups, want literature online.
+ ** Wanted a collaborative tool for authoring inventories of major groups, wanted literature online.
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- * Jessie, we have a solution for our own problems.
+ * Jessie, that's fine but we are working on a solution for our own problems, not those.
+ ** Next steps Jessie: Getting people who have concepts and manage concepts on Board and get them to start managing concepts. Letting us serve their data.
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- ** Next steps Jessie: Getting people who have concepts and manage concepts on Board and get them to start managing concepts. Letting us serve their data. MSW may have more data.
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- * Discussion about things that we have not done. (Suggested by Jessie).
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- ** Where we failed, not getting decent concept people on Board with us earlier. What does ‘on board’ mean? No clear idea.
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- ** Jessie we really need a good demonstration project in the short term one that demonstrates our capabilities but not directed to solving any particular outreach problem for any particular group, it is too late in the project for that.
+ __ Discussion about things that we have not done. (Suggested by Jessie) __
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- * Laura, what problem is being solved? Can you tell me in three sentences.
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+ ** It was an oversight not to get active researchers using concepts on board with us earlier.
+ ** We really need a good demonstration project in the short term one that demonstrates our capabilities but not directed to solving any particular outreach problem for any particular group, it is too late in the project for that.
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+ * Laura, what problem is being solved? Can you tell me in three sentences.
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- * Jessie, the real issue for us that ecologists are our users. We need to serve them, and to convince them that what they are doing is wrong to ignore concepts. We need to convince them to take on these problems, without adding much or any other workload, then they will collaborate We have to mail their lives easier.
+ ** Jessie, the real issue for us that ecologists are our users. We need to serve them, and to convince them that what they are doing is wrong to ignore concepts. We need to convince them to take on these problems, without adding much or any other workload, then they will collaborate We have to mail their lives easier.
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- * They have to see the perceived benefit to play -- Laura, or They have to play by the rules -- Bob.
+ * Laura, they have to see the perceived benefit to play
+ * Bob, or they have to play by the rules.
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- * Jessie -- Big Unresolved SEEK-Taxon Issues as illustrated by dry-erase board diagram. (incomplete notes here -- ed.)
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+ __ Big Unresolved SEEK-Taxon Issues as illustrated by dry-erase board diagram by Jessie. __
+ (incomplete notes here -- ed., who has the photograph?)
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- ## Who would work on these pieces?
- ## How would the process work in SEEK Taxon.
+ ## Who would work on these pieces to complete the picture (i.e. data flow and functionalities)?
+ ## How would the process work in SEEK Taxon?
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- !!! Wednesday, May 3, 2006
+ ! Wednesday, May 3, 2006
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- !!! Thursday, May 4, 2006
+ ! Thursday, May 4, 2006, 8-11 AM.
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+ __ SEEK_Taxon Breakout Session to discuss priorities and next steps __
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+ * Make a stronger connection to Kepler
+ * Need to get more data, and to get the bat data mapped, Bob offered plant concept data also
+ * Jim offered to pursue the identification and engagement of a Mammalogist to help with bat concept data mapping
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+ * Discussion about the need for sample data to be able to show end-to-end connectivity and workflow with concepts.
+ ** Bob, Alan Weakly has 6500 taxa, 8 classifications; just having two classfications (MSW) with just names is likely not enough, we need comprehensive data sets with many characters, over time.
+ ** Bob, we have all of data for the classifications for Juglandaceae (trees). Also have complete Ranunculus data, with full concept information. Bob committed to producing some data for the TOS by about the end of June.
+ ** Discussion of bat data, bat people, value in finding some bat survey and observation data sets that could be marked up.
+ ** Jim offered to pursue some bat leads. Talk to Bob Timm (KU), Don Wilson (USNM), MSW bat treatment author, possibly Texas Tech lab.
+ ** Dave, what about searching EML data sets for taxonomic names? Aimmee-did that, not much there.
+ ** Rich Pyle once offered (we think) angel fish concept, data, we could check to see if that is still on the table.
+ ** Dave Thau, someone mused, likely also has ant data concepts from the Ant web project.
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- SEEK_Taxon Breakout Session to discuss priorities and next steps

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