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Seek Taxon Notes Nov 3

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- Present: Jim Beach, Nico Franz, Jessie Kennedy, Trevor Paterson, Bob Peet, Xianhua Liu, Dave Vieglais, Dave Thau, Robert Gales, Susan Guach, Joana Trajkova, Gwen Davis, Aimee Stewart
+ !!Taxon Breakout at SEEK All-Hands Meeting 3 Nov 2004
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+ __Present:__
+ Jim Beach, Nico Franz, Jessie Kennedy, Trevor Paterson, Bob Peet, Xianhua Liu, Dave Vieglais, Dave Thau, Robert Gales, Susan Guach, Joana Trajkova, Gwen Davis, Ed Wiley, Aimee Stewart
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+ !!Long term
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+ If we were to support research sub project like catfish, tomato:
+ * Need some user interface application that allows authoring, mapping concepts (visual tool)
+ * What is their motivation, what do they get?
+ ** document legacy of the field
+ ** allow themselves and others to recreate lineage of knowledge
+ ** ready themselves for the future of taxonomy
+ ** gain greater use of their material by greater user community, stimulate research
+ ** need to streamline process, make their job easier
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+ Could a taxonomist turn this into a publication?
+ * would still do print/traditional publication
+ * how would they get output from db for publication
+ * we have not focused on tools for users yet
+ * must emphasize importance of what they are doing and making this available to a wider audience
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+ Jim: Is it enough to improve our current products continue our direction?
+ * JK: need a strong illustration of usefulness of our concept approach - for that we need a lot more data
+ * Need specifics of promise of improved world for the taxonomists, etc
+ * to serve the ecologists (and other end users) well, we need the data and buy-in from the taxonomists
+ * need a good case study with experts from diff communities
+ * Ed Wiley: Need tool that allows taxonomists to enter their research, then clandestinely allows ecologists to find current nomenclature and synonyms. Trick is to add geographic information to concepts, querying ability.
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+ Jim: risk in assumptions of critical problems to be solved - need serious use case analysis
+ * problem may be more that organism doesn't have good name
+ * is the concept even a first line of attack?
+ * JK: SEEK looking at bigger problems - time, geographical range, etc, not daily annoyances
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+ Susan: 3-6 months to solve NA mammals problem, then on to more challenging problem that involves changing names, concepts over time, geography
+ * get some synergy between NSF projects
+ * catfish - lots of undescribed species, mostly in SA, good for us - provide tools for new discoveries
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+ NA Mammal data taxon priorities
+ * Smithsonian MSW data - must find out how to interpret it
+ * Want to automate specimen data markup with algorithms, then have taxonomist check data
+ * put lots of data into Taxon cache
+ * expand matching algorithms
+ * plug into Ecogrid
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+ Criteria
+ * follow changes over time
+ * authoritative sources point to concepts
+ * Ed can provide checklists (American Fishery Society) with changes over time (every 10 years) - we would need to link changes
+ * Bob - plants - checklists
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+ [DevelopmentTasksNov2004]
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+ __Miscellaneous notes from thau__
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+ information in versioning systems have:
+ *public versions
+ *private versions
+ *working versions
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+ might be nice to incorporate this notion into the lsid server
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+ questions that come up when looking at browser tools
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+ * who are the users?
+ * what visual representions do the users want? tree, graph, touch-graph?
+ * what work are we trying to make more efficient and how is that work done?
+ * what is the relationship between the visualization and editing tool?
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+ note from jessie on point 2 - we found that taxonomists like trees, even though the underlying data model is a graph I published on this
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