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- Present: Jim Beach, Nico Franz, Jessie Kennedy, Trevor Paterson, Bob Peet, Xianhua Liu, Dave Vieglais, Dave Thau, Robert Gales, Susan Guach, Joana Trajkova, Gwen Davis, Aimee Stewart |
+ !!Taxon Breakout at SEEK All-Hands Meeting 3 Nov 2004 |
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+ __Present:__ |
+ Jim Beach, Nico Franz, Jessie Kennedy, Trevor Paterson, Bob Peet, Xianhua Liu, Dave Vieglais, Dave Thau, Robert Gales, Susan Guach, Joana Trajkova, Gwen Davis, Ed Wiley, Aimee Stewart |
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+ !!Long term |
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+ If we were to support research sub project like catfish, tomato: |
+ * Need some user interface application that allows authoring, mapping concepts (visual tool) |
+ * What is their motivation, what do they get? |
+ ** document legacy of the field |
+ ** allow themselves and others to recreate lineage of knowledge |
+ ** ready themselves for the future of taxonomy |
+ ** gain greater use of their material by greater user community, stimulate research |
+ ** need to streamline process, make their job easier |
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+ Could a taxonomist turn this into a publication? |
+ * would still do print/traditional publication |
+ * how would they get output from db for publication |
+ * we have not focused on tools for users yet |
+ * must emphasize importance of what they are doing and making this available to a wider audience |
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+ Jim: Is it enough to improve our current products continue our direction? |
+ * JK: need a strong illustration of usefulness of our concept approach - for that we need a lot more data |
+ * Need specifics of promise of improved world for the taxonomists, etc |
+ * to serve the ecologists (and other end users) well, we need the data and buy-in from the taxonomists |
+ * need a good case study with experts from diff communities |
+ * Ed Wiley: Need tool that allows taxonomists to enter their research, then clandestinely allows ecologists to find current nomenclature and synonyms. Trick is to add geographic information to concepts, querying ability. |
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+ Jim: risk in assumptions of critical problems to be solved - need serious use case analysis |
+ * problem may be more that organism doesn't have good name |
+ * is the concept even a first line of attack? |
+ * JK: SEEK looking at bigger problems - time, geographical range, etc, not daily annoyances |
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+ Susan: 3-6 months to solve NA mammals problem, then on to more challenging problem that involves changing names, concepts over time, geography |
+ * get some synergy between NSF projects |
+ * catfish - lots of undescribed species, mostly in SA, good for us - provide tools for new discoveries |
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+ NA Mammal data taxon priorities |
+ * Smithsonian MSW data - must find out how to interpret it |
+ * Want to automate specimen data markup with algorithms, then have taxonomist check data |
+ * put lots of data into Taxon cache |
+ * expand matching algorithms |
+ * plug into Ecogrid |
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+ Criteria |
+ * follow changes over time |
+ * authoritative sources point to concepts |
+ * Ed can provide checklists (American Fishery Society) with changes over time (every 10 years) - we would need to link changes |
+ * Bob - plants - checklists |
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+ [DevelopmentTasksNov2004] |
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+ __Miscellaneous notes from thau__ |
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+ information in versioning systems have: |
+ *public versions |
+ *private versions |
+ *working versions |
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+ might be nice to incorporate this notion into the lsid server |
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+ questions that come up when looking at browser tools |
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+ * who are the users? |
+ * what visual representions do the users want? tree, graph, touch-graph? |
+ * what work are we trying to make more efficient and how is that work done? |
+ * what is the relationship between the visualization and editing tool? |
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+ note from jessie on point 2 - we found that taxonomists like trees, even though the underlying data model is a graph I published on this |
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